Talzin utilizing a form of Force lightning against Mace Windu. ‼️LOTS OF SPOILERS‼️ 1 on 1 just because we've seen Sidious do much more feat wise I'd say he has the upperhand, but it be at great cost to himself, like how he managed to beat Windu but got Lighting reflected back at him that kinda fucked him up, Which is something he didn't want to risk by fighting her alone. [13] She also showed signs of sadism, as she was very gleeful when torturing Dooku. While initially helping Ventress in her quest for revenge, she was also adamant in her belief that she should return home and renounce the ways of the Sith. Talzin reluctantly complied, taking the infant Asajj Ventress from her mother and surrendering her to Hal'Sted. [3], Maul brought Dooku to Dathomir and was greeted by Brother Viscus, who had survived his battle with Dooku. Mother Talzin's clan[5] [3] While Maul, Feral, and Savage were all her children,[8] she appeared to be fine with using Savage as a pawn in her and Ventress's game for revenge, empowered him with magicks that suppressed his personality and amplified his anger, and allowed Ventress to force him to kill his brother Feral. [13] She could set things on fire simply by using her magicks, as shown with the large pot that contained Count Dooku's Voodoo doll. We have information on your potential job duties in a sticky thread located in each of the respective subforums, leading to our application. Despite her sons' best efforts, the Dark Lord ultimately proved to be too strong and overwhelmed the brothers, killing Opress and capturing Maul. [15], It was also around the antebellum of the Clone Wars that Talzin came to know Dooku, a charismatic Jedi Master who would ultimately become the leader of the Confederacy and the new Sith apprentice of Darth Sidious. Maul explained what had happened and Talzin surmised that Maul's escape had been planned by Sidious in an attempt to draw her out, and told him to rendezvous with the Black Sun's forces on Ord Mantell while she sent him aid in the form of Brother Viscus and the Nightbrothers to deal with Dooku. [20], Daka's spellcraft helped Ventress to turn the tide of battle against the Confederacy, but Talzin sought additional assurances of victory. Stock and barrel. [20] The conflict had decimated the Nightsister coven and destroyed most of Talzin's power base on Dathomir, but the Mother remained in the ruins of her village to continue pursuing her most pivotal objective: the retrieval and rebirth of her son. Acting as a mother figure she was very sympathetic with Asajj Ventress aiding her and giving her hugs. 100% Upvoted. [3], Though she was never known to use telekinesis in combat, Talzin was a powerful user of telekinesis, able to lift many types of objects with ease as well as levitate herself. As he writhed on the floor of his palace, Talzin used her magicks to reach out and appear to him as a specter breaking out of his torso. Clan(s) [13] In private she displayed a much kinder attitude towards him, such as when she comforted Savage when he returned following his betrayal of Ventress,[14] and they regarded each other with mutual respect when Savage arrived on Dathomir with Maul. He had little memory of his former life and no knowledge of Opress, but agreed to return with his brother to Dathomir under the temptation of revenge against the one figure who he could recall: Obi-Wan Kenobi. Mother Talzin is the Clan Mother of the Nightsisters in the waning days of the Galactic Republic. [3], Although Maul was able to escape Dathomir alive, Sidious judged him as no longer being a threat to the Sith rule of the galaxy. Round 1. Stronger than Pre-Dark Empire Luke Skywalker. Yoda & Darth Sidious vs Team Mother Talzin. However, if Talzin retreating counts as a victory for Sheev, I give it to him 8-9/10. Talzin encouraged Ventress to strike at Dooku at his home on Serenno and selected the clan's two strongest warriors to accompany her on the journey—Naa'leth and Karis. [6] In the meantime, she continued to lead her coven and protect her people from off-world threats. A Quest for Vengeance Created by xerodeep. Although he was driven to insanity by his injuries and isolation, he managed to connect the remaining upper half of his body to a complex set of six cybernetic legs made from refuse and held together by the Force. Posted by. [20] She was also able to contact members of the Frangawl Cult in the form of visions. It was very powerful, able to destroy a B-1 battle droid in one hit. He reported his findings to Talzin, who was monitoring his progress from afar on Dathomir. On the run after a disastrous defeat at the hands of General Grievous, Maul implored Talzin for help and her image materialized from his chest in the form of green mist. [21], Mother Talzin's main loyalties laid with the Nightsisters[13] and with her son Maul, and her primary goals were to exact revenge against Darth Sidious and eventually rule the galaxy alongside her son. Although Maul begged for Talzin to take his strength, the tide began to turn against them when Dooku recovered and joined his Master's onslaught. Talzin was again forced into the spirit realm, but was presented with a final chance at escape and revenge when Maul was freed from Sidious's grasp and began plotting with his mother to capture and kill Dooku to draw out Sidious. So like 65/100 Sidious imo, but both characters are shrouded in mystery so true power levels are unclear. We are seeking out advisers and amicus for Vs. [11] Although Maul was bisected by a lightsaber, his deep connection to the dark side of the Force allowed him to survive. [6], Furious, Talzin resolved to one day take revenge upon the Sith and retrieve her lost son. She subsequently became a shaman of the Nightsisters and eventually unite… You are indeed where you belong. She then offered Dooku a chance to join them, destroy Sidious, and rule the galaxy together. Talzin led her coven in a ritual to heal and rejuvenate the young woman, using the magicks to show Ventress visions of her life and betrayal by Dooku. Stronger than Pre-Dark Empire Luke Skywalker. The young Ventress was ferried to Rattatak, where she lost all connections to her people on Dathomir and was repeatedly orphaned, eventually coming to join Talzin's enemies in the Sith. Fifteen years after Opress's death, Maul recalled the loss of Opress while explaining his hatred of the Sith to Ezra Bridger in an attemptto make him his new apprentice. However, the ship's crew were able to repel him and he remained trapped on the planet. Homeworld [26] The whole scheme was put into jeopardy early on; a faction of the Death Watch turned against Maul and Darth Sidious himself sensed the plot before the initial stages were ever completed. [7] Talzin was also capable of dematerializing her body, transforming into smoke and vanishing into the spirit world when General Grievous had her cornered,[20][9] as well as materializing and disappearing from wisps of green mist before Savage Opress after he returned to Dathomir. Nightsisters[5]Sith[6]Frangawl Cult[7]Shadow Collective[6] [17] On Dooku's orders, Opress assaulted a Jedi Temple on Devaron and slew the Jedi defenders stationed there. After being revived by Talzin and forming the Shadow Collective as per his mother's wishes, Maul was captured by Darth Sidious and imprisoned, only to break out with the help of his Mandalorian allies. Asajj Ventress vs Mother Talzin. Team Mother Talzin vs Darth Sidious. Although the younger Nightsister pleaded with her not to leave, Talzin insisted that she move on from this chapter of her life and follow her own path. Gender Maul's obsession with Kenobi caused the plot against Sidious to be derailed multiple times,[22][24] but he and Opress eventually managed to recruit at army of underworld enforcers backed by the highly disciplined Death Watch exiles of Mandalore. Nah. A Dathomirian female, Talzin was a member of the Nightsisters prior to the Clone Wars. While birthing her first daughter, Talzin was struck with a fatal affliction, but was enlightened by the spirits of her culture and survived the incident. Although Ventress believed she was now powerless because Opress had forsaken the Nightsisters, Talzin welcomed her back with open arms, insisting that she needed to abandon the Sith ways in totality and rejoin her sisters as a member of the coven. [14] She displayed a snarky and dismissive side when confronted by Mace Windu, sarcastically declaring she was a "simple witch" and beneath his attention. Mother Talzin using her magick to fight the Confederate army. [5], Her foresight proved vital when the assassination attempt failed and Ventress, Karis, and Naa'leth returned in defeat. 3 years ago. For a time Merrin also sought vengeance for the massacre of the clan, but five years after the end of the Clone Wars she left the planet to join Great Jedi Purge survivor Cal Kestis and his crew on their mission to rebuild the Jedi Order. [6] After Maul was returned to her, Talzin provided some of her own life force to revive him,[3] sent him aid as he carried out her plans for revenge,[23] and eventually, gave her life to help him escape from Sidious. She gave Opress a magick-imbued talisman and tasked him with finding his brother and learning the path to power from him. Before he could execute the Mother herself, Talzin vanished into a green smoke, dissolving her physical form and fleeing into the spirit world to seek refuge. Round 2. -They know there is a Darth Sidious is out there. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Superhero battle match: Mother Talzin versus Darth Sidious. -Dooku already told that the Senate is under control by Sidious on Geonosis.-Maul and Dooku telling the truth can back up what Dooku said on Geonosis. Mother Talzin was a manipulative witch who showed different aspects of her personality depending on who she interacted with. [14], While the Jedi rushed to intercept the Nightbrother, Talzin met with Ventress and told her that the time had come to strike against Dooku. Although their early attempts to assassinate Dooku failed, Talzin had a long-term plan for the Sith Lord's demise: she would provide Dooku with a new apprentice in the form of the Nightbrother Savage Opress, who was also one of Talzin's children. Darth Sidious vs Mother Talzin. Darth Sidious chose Anakin for these reasons, knowing Vader would become a powerful tool in his Empire to come. Lock. But after Mother Talzin pulled the madness from his mind and remade Maul’s body with the spirit ichor that flows beneath Dathomir, Darth Sidious’ former apprentice changed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Who will win in a fight between Mother Talzin and Darth Sidious? Sort by. There, Opress found Maul broken and abandoned in the caverns beneath the planet. [20] While supportive, she wasn't against deceiving Ventress to advance her own goals, helping Savage Opress after he betrayed Ventress[14] and sending him on a quest to find Talzin's other son, a fact she withheld from Ventress after her return. [13][14] After losing Maul to her former partner Darth Sidious, Talzin wished to rescue him, and she stated he was what was most dear to her. Understanding that Opress was close to finding his brother, Talzin began making the necessary arrangements to bring Maul back to health without the aid and support she traditionally received from her coven of spellcasters. Characters Battles Teams Super Powers Forum Feed Collections. And I'm pretty sure they both always fight bloodlusted... 8 comments. Sometime after the botched assassination, Ventress returned to Dathomir to once again seek refuge with Mother Talzin. Wookieepedia is a FANDOM Movies Community. She armed the three women with a poisoned dart and Jedi lightsabers, ensuring that Dooku would not think the Nightsisters to be responsible for the attack in the case of his survival. [33] When Goodson auditioned for the part, she was told that the creative staff of The Clone Wars wanted a "Romanian witch" type of voice. His free will was largely destroyed by the magicks, making him a puppet who was ultimately loyal to Talzin alone. While she did care for the Nightsisters,[13] Talzin's greatest attachment[6] was to her "beloved son," Darth Maul,[23] which ran contrary to her culture that viewed males as expendable tools for breeding. [13][14] While she was ultimately overcome and defeated by Sidious, she possessed a shrewd and tactical mind and was able to go toe-to-toe with the Sith Lord for a time, accurately predicting his movements and adjusting her own strategies accordingly. Maul and Opress did succeed in forming the Shadow Collective as a power base but were quickly found and defeated by Darth Sidious himself. [9] Talzin was a particularly talented witch and was recognized as a spiritual guide for her people. Talzin was the leader of the Dathomirian Nightsisters during the Clone Wars and spiritual mother of Asajj Ventress, whom she took in after Dooku betrayed her. A master of every single form of lightsaber combat and numerous aspects of the Force, only Jedi as powerful as Grand Master Yoda could call themselves his peer in battle. Who will win in a fight between Yoda & Darth Sidious and Team Mother Talzin? A conniving witch who would do anything to secure the safety of her Dathomirian brethren, her mastery of magic makes her a formidable foe to any Jedi and even the Dark Lord of the Sith himself. The revelry was cut short when the village was attacked by droid bombers—the first wave of an extermination assault on Dathomir launched at Dooku's command by his cyborg Confederate General, Grievous. Darth Sidious chose Anakin for these reasons, knowing Vader would become a powerful tool in his Empire to come. The true test of that loyalty came when the Nightsisters forced Opress to kill his beloved brother, Feral; Savage complied, murdering Feral in cold blood and proving his obedience to Talzin and Ventress. She insisted that he call off his troops or face a painful death, but the Sith Lord remained defiant in the face of the Nightsister's magick. Height [Star Wars] Mother Talzin Vs Sidious? [6] She was also a member of the Nightsisters; a coven of witches who used their dark magicks and connection to the spirit world to rule the planet and subjugate their male counterparts, the Nightbrothers. Ventress's return was initially met with hostility from the other Nightsisters who were uneasy around outsiders and unaware of the new arrival's true parentage. Physical description Considering Talzin and Sidious were stuck in a stalemate as they were dueling with Force Lightning and the stalemate between the two never changed even when Maul aided his mother and Dooku supported Sidious. The clear attempts by the book licensee Del Rey to weave TCW into the novels has resulted in Mother Talzin has received passing reference in James Luceno’s Darth Plagueis novel, a larger role in Scholastic’s The Wrath of Darth Maul, as well … Satisfied with the results, Talzin gifted Opress with an enchanted pike summoned from the spirit world before taking him to Serenno to deliver him to his new Master, Dooku.[13]. 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